Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas to everyone who has stopped by my little piece of cyberspace over this past year and here is hoping that you and yours have a great 2010.

Please enjoy my second favorite Christmas Film. (FYI: It is a Wonderful Life is #1)

From Canada's own NFB.

Credibility.

Totally shot!




You need more. Listen as Elizabeth May rewrites history @ approx 38:00. Note to Elizabeth, Germany declared war on the USA first on Dec 11, 1941 and not the other way around. It is kind of hard to ignore a declaration of war against you no matter how much the public resistance. Considering just how much she is versed on this time period I wonder how she got this wrong.

Still more. Watch as she tries to lie her way out of her own words.

Elizabeth May's credibility = zero.


ht Petalusa and Unambiguously Ambidextrous.

Bizzaro Copenhagen

Just a couple of things that happened at the summit in Copenhagen that leave me wondering.


How is it that Jack Layton, the guy rallying against the HST because the increase in taxes will harm families, can be in favour of the proposed fund of upwards of 200 billion dollars collected from the 'developed' countries (including about 30 billion from Canada) ? Wouldn't taking 30 billion dollars from Canadians and their families be a much greater burden than the HST would?


Was Al Gore trying to make sure that the "Gore effect" did not happen again when he called for the world leader to meet in Mexico in July rather than the proposed date in late fall? I mean what are the odds that it would snow in Mexico City in July?


Why did the PM get such a rough ride from the same media and lefty environmentalists who were falling all over themselves praising Obama? Hasn't the PM said on numerous occasions that our AGW policies would mirror those taken by the US? But in the press Obama = good and Harper = bad, even if they have the exact same goals for CO2 reductions.


Why is it that Canada who responsible for only 2% of the worlds total CO2 emissions gets all sorts of grief when China, currently responsible for 22% of those emissions, gets treated with kid gloves? Even more interesting is that in the last few years China has increased its emissions by about 10% a year, or in more simple terms they have increased their yearly output a total equal to our total output. Yup Canada is the problem. More fossil awards please.


And lastly where were Ignatieff and the Liberals? We know that if Dion was still leader he would have went to Copenhagen, so why didn't Ignatieff go?


Oh I almost forgot, what about the science?



pt2, pt3, pt4

ht SDA

Michael Ignatieff: great moments in arrogance

Michael Ignatieff: “I don’t need to prove anything to anybody.”



Um, you do if you want to get elected* you arrogant jackass.







* not having ever won a nomination race in his life might explain his arrogance, but it does not excuse it.

Update: more from MI as he criticizes the government for focusing on jobs and not the deficit as he announces that the Liberals will focus on jobs and not the deficit. Got that?

David Suzuki: Compares Climate Change to Slavery!

He really has gone off the deep end:

SOLOMON: And by the way, they're saying because it is, by the way, because the oil sands creates jobs, creates money that is transferred to other provinces, and that's their notion of the balance.

SUZUKI: You know, that's what they used to say in the southern states. We can't give up slavery because it'll destroy our economy and slavery gives us jobs and we have to have slave runners and all of that. Some things you do because they're right. And you know, the problem is...

SOLOMON: But David, just for the record, and I know you're passionate, but is comparing this to slavery, is that fair, to demonize the other side like that?

SUZUKI: We're talking about the fate of all of humankind and the kind of future we're going to leave for our children. Yes, I think this is criminal what's going on now, to act as if the economy.

Read the entire interview here.

How many homes does this guy own again?

Ouch. The assassination photo really must have hit a nerve.

I have always maintained that you can tell the amount of damage done with any political story by the level and quality of spin used to counteract the story.

The assassination photo fiasco must have done the Liberals some serious hurt as all of the big guns were out trying to spin this one away, including someone we have not heard much from lately; Jason Cherniak, who offers up some old school spin with some attempted distraction away from the photo scandal by playing the antisemitic card.

Classic Cherniak! We miss you Jason, the current Liberal Crisis Firebrigade of Ted and Gayle just don't have that same over the top style.


Seriously, watching the Liberals spin away at this is extremely entertaining.


Mea culpa: The one aspect of politics that I find the most fascinating is spin. I love it; theirs, ours, it doesn't really matter where it comes from as I find all interesting. Too bad for them that not all spin is of the same calibre and on this one they are off target.

Send in the Lawyers!

Speaking as one of those "plucky Canucks" I join with my progressive friends* in the hope that the lawyers and the courts finally do get to the truth of it all.


Send in the lawyers!






*assuming that my progressive friends, who are more than willing to launch inquiries into the dealings of past Prime Ministers and 3 year old allegations of torture that were NOT committed by Canadians nor cost us billions of dollars, would be interested in the truth on AGW.

Ruby Tuesday Part 2

Tuesday December 15, 2009 otherwise known as Ruby Tuesday Part 2 for the Liberal Party of Canada. Only this time it was Jack Ruby and not Ruby Dhalla.

From the contest rules: "We’ll post every entry we receive in the coming days (as long as it’s not inappropriate)..."

The Picture that was deemed appropriate by someone within the Liberal Party of Canada and posted to the official website of the LPC.


Lucky Liberals get to choose the winner? (it is still unclear if the above was chosen by the Liberal web team as a finalist)


All was well until they were busted by the media.


As usual the blogosphere was ahead of them all.


The non apology. The photos here are created by visitors to our website, and do not always reflect the views of the Liberal Party of Canada. Though we continue to screen submissions before posting, we have removed certain images that may have been offensive to some viewers.

We apologize for any offence these images may have caused, and continue to strive to present a progressive and dynamic web experience for our site visitors.

Sincerely,
The Web Team



Warren speaks a truism: "Moral of the story? It's the reverse-Vegas principle: what happens online doesn't ever stay online. It seeps out, like water." ( he should know)

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Is it over? Not yet and it will not be over until Michael Ignatieff grows a pair and shows some leadership by making an apology for the actions of HIS party to the Prime Minister. Attempting to change the channel will not work.




For fun: Have a listen to Steve Janke from Angry in the Great White North destroy Lib Blogger Jeff Jedras on Breakenridge yesterday. (Select Dec 15 @ 7PM. It starts right after the news.)

And because it is Christmas a free tip for those Liberals running around trying to compare the "bullet holes" going through Dion's Platform (done by his own party btw) with bullets going through the PM; give it up before you make an already bad situation much worse. Get your leader to apologize and be done with it.

Shut Up Elizabeth May!

Seriously Elizabeth, just shut the hell up, and tell David Miller to do the same.




A blast from the past: Watch as Elizabeth May calls Canadians stupid and then lies about it multiple times!



Another shorter Youtube video on the same quote.


Related from a few days ago: May having more difficulties with the facts.

Only 7 more days until winter starts.

Stay warm, and say Hi to Al Gore if you happen to see him somewhere between his private jet and Limo.

No Puffin = No Media Coverage.

Do you remember that cartoon puffin graphic on a CPC website from last year? You should because it was in all of the papers and other media.


Compare the media coverage and outrage of that single puffin to this, (Peter Donolo approved) found on the official party website of the always classy Liberal Party of Canada.


Ok defenders of the MSM in Canada; do you have any rational explanations for the differences in coverage?


Update: December 15, 2009. They Liberals sink even lower, if that is possible.

The Quebec Wing

The Quebec wing of the Liberal Party of Canada.


Follow the money.


I guess that is why Denis did not want the job. Being the Quebec Lieutenant doesn't pay what it used to.

That is mighty neighbourly of you Henry.

Henry Aubin writes today in the Montreal Gazette about how Quebec has decided to make big 'sacrifices' by reducing their GHG emissions by 20% from 1990 levels. WTG Quebec, that is mighty big of you, but wait....

Henry thinks that because Quebec has decided on its own to make these 'sacrifices' that everyone else, particularly Alberta, should also do the same because, well because Quebec did. That is like saying that because you have now chosen to stop eating meat that every one else must now do the same. Nice logic Henry but let me say on behalf of "greedy" Alberta, you know that province that sends money to Ottawa so it can be redirected to Quebec to lower your taxes and pay for all the stuff that you cannot afford, BITE ME!


One last thing on this quote: "To claim, as some skeptics do, that a few climate-change scientists' dishonesty invalidates the idea of human-caused global warming is as silly as to suggest that the Bernard Madoffs and Vincent Lacroixes of this world delegitimize capitalism." If he means that there were criminal acts and fraud committed than I guess the comparison may be valid, but somehow I don't think that is what Henry meant.

The Liberal Party. The Debbie Downers of Canadian Politics.

The Liberal Party of Canada is all negative all of the time and they have been that way since 2006 when they were tossed from power by the good people of Canada.

Pick an issue, any issue, and the Liberals are out in the press bad mouthing the governments handling of it. The last couple of weeks it was been torture, this week I suspect it will be the environment, and 3 weeks ago it was H1N1. They claim that Canadians abroad are embarrassed to be Canadian because we have a conservative government, the PM goes to China and gets many things accomplished and these same Liberals, who were screaming all about torture and human rights, are more willing to criticize the PM than they are the human rights record of China, and who can forget the Liberals new found concern for the traditions of the Catholic Church and the entirely made up FAKE wafergate fiasco. (BTW the LPC line is STILL that the PM did not eat the wafer)

It is not that the Liberals are just criticizing the government, they are fear mongering as well. Think H1N1 when Bob Rae stood up and said people are dying because of Canada's slow response, think back to last summer when Denis Coderre spoke about how people would die unless changes were made immediately to EI, and of course we also had Caroline Bennett with the body bags and using native children as political props for the Liberal cause.


While all the over the top fear mongering is laughable on its own, there is something else that reeks with this Liberal strategy. They are not just smearing the government with their negativity, they are also smearing thousands of other Canadians in the process.

Some recent examples:

H1N1, body bags and the smearing of thousands of health care professionals in every province who worked tirelessly in the planning and implementation of the vaccination process.

Olympic logos: By making the outrageous and totally false claims that the government has influenced the creation of our teams logo the Liberals have smeared all of the people who had a say in the design process. The COA, the Bay, and the athletes themselves who were involved with the decision all falsely being called conservative dupes in the hopes of increasing Liberal fortunes.

Torture: while they claim that they support the troops the Liberals end up smearing every Canadian who puts on a military uniform as well as the hundreds of government bureaucrats involved with our mission in Afghanistan. For those that do not quite get this I ask you to answer these questions. What is the ultimate goal of the Liberals in perusing this line and what are the desired results? How can seeing some of our men and women in uniform being hauled to trial for war crimes be considered supporting our troops?

The Olympic Torch: See 'Olympic logos' above and add on the hundreds of others involved with organizing the route to the smear total.

Stimulus money: 1000's of gov employees at all levels in every province and territory were involved with the decision making process and the Liberals smeared each and every one of them with their claims of mismanagement and favoritism.

There are plenty more examples but I think you get the idea.


The Liberal strategy is simple; if it is positive or good news they down play it or just ignore it, and if it is negative or bad news they run with it as far as they can and rarely if ever offer up suggestions as to how to improve things and they think nothing of running down the country or smearing countless ordinary Canadians who are just doing their jobs, if those efforts offer them some kind of perceived gain.


Maybe it is just me but this Debbie Downer attitude of fear mongering, running down the country, and smearing 1000's of Canadians may not be the very best way to get those dismal poll numbers up. But hey, feel free to keep up the negativity Liberals, it makes that 'positive' message that your leader talks about even more laughable and besides there are still a few people left in this country that you have not got around to smearing yet.

Keep up the good work, it looks good on you.

The PM stands by his principles on human rights.

PM Harper in a speech to Chinese business leaders: "Our government believes and has always believed that a mutually-beneficial economic relationship is not incompatible with a good and frank dialogue on fundamental values like freedom, human rights and the rule of law,"

Jack Layton shows that he hates Canada more than he is worried about human rights: "I think you always have to be careful when you live in a glass house when it comes to throwing stones," referring to the questions raised over whether Canada transferred prisoners to Afghan authorities where they were tortured.


Michael Ignatieff:"We've all had a wake up call in Canada about how important China is and Mr. Harper has taken a very long time to wake up," said Ignatieff, who apparently was not awake enough to go through with his own trip to China earlier this year as he was again busy backing down from his election threats.



related: check out the + and - ratings for the comments at CTV ( and any of the other media outlets). It looks like the Chinese are well versed in ways in which to attempt to influence public opinion.

Climategate whopper of the week.

There have been a lot of tall tales and whoppers from all sides of the Climategate story recently but this one stands out for myself as the whopper of the week.

Mark Hess, public affairs director for the Goddard Space Flight Center which runs the GISS laboratory: “We’re collecting the information and will respond with all the responsive relevant information to all of his requests,” Mr. Hess said. “It’s just a process you have to go through where you have to collect data that’s responsive.”

He said he was unfamiliar with the British controversy and couldn’t say whether NASA was susceptible to the same challenges to its data."

The public affairs director of NASA, whose job it is to keep up with the latest news stories and who probably has staff who search out this stuff, claims that he is not familiar with perhaps the biggest story related to climate science in years!

Ya right, who does he think he is, the CBC?

ht Springer.

and just because.

Disclose.tv Jon Stewart on Climate-Gate Video

Ignatieff agrees

Michael Ignatieff Agrees. He agrees with George W Bush on the Iraq war and 'enhanced interogation', and he agrees with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao that 5 years was too long of a period between visits of a Canadian PM to China. Ignatieff agrees with just about everyone who is not Canadian it seems.

Speaking in Ottawa, Ignatieff said Harper’s public rebuke from the Chinese leadership “is going to cost Canadian jobs.”

“This is the most important relationship for the economic future of the country, the most important, and for four years this government put this relationship in the deep freeze,” Ignatieff said.

“Mr. Harper ... lost face today, and in that culture losing face is very important,” he said.

Way to stand up for your country Iggy, you continue to impress. (not)

Perhaps Ignatieff is upset that the PM did not take the time out of his busy schedule to visit everyone's favorite Liberal and fugitive from justice, Maurice Strong, while he was there.

Some facts: Canada was granted approved destination status, something the Liberals were unable to get under 12 years of rule, and many visits.

In 2007, two-way trade between the two countries was up 13 per cent. In 2008, two-way trade was up 11 per cent. In the first six months of this year, two-way trade is up by about 3 per cent -- despite a recession.

Also on this trip a deal has been struck to sell Canadian agricultural products to the Chinese market and a new Chinese consulate will be built in Montreal in the future.

Well Mr. Ignatieff, I guess it is better for the PM to 'lose face', stick to his views on human rights, and get results like these, then it is to be 2 faced like a certain leader of the opposition that I know.

How far has technology advanced in the last year?

Well considering that this was made December 3, 2008, just 1 year ago today.



I would say that technology has indeed come a long way.





It might just be the snow on the ground or that the Christmas season is coming upon us but I sure have been feeling quite nostalgic this week and I can't put my finger on it as to why. Oh well, I am sure it will come to me

Heather Mallick, proud to hate Canada.

Heather Mallick is at it again; this time she is telling us and that we should all be embarrassed to be Canadians. From the UK Guardian

Some excerpts:

Out of something as misty as mere indecision, Canadian voters have turned their country into a political freak show. Canada's Conservative government, run by an ideologue named Stephen Harper, does not represent Canadian voters on saving the air we breathe and temperatures we can cope with.

Yes, Canada's record on carbon emissions is disgraceful, shameful, loathsome etc. The tar sands of northern Alberta are an international scandal. But the problem is not in a former Prius of a country turning into a Hummer. Canada's dilemma is much more interesting that that. It is the decline of a democracy (partly as its media died, thank you Conrad Black) and the descent of a nation into a political stasis. ( AA Note: if you are too stupid not to know the difference between tar and oil you invalidate your opinions on the dumb factor alone)


First, no one disagrees more with Harper's refusal to slow climate change than Canadian voters. Indeed, more than three-quarters of Canadians say they are embarrassed that Canada hasn't taken an international lead on the issue, a recent poll revealed.

We hate green garbage incompetents. We love the Kyoto protocol, we want to prostrate ourselves in Copenhagen next month, but until we make our mind up about whether to make Michael Ignatieff prime minister, we can't.

May I humbly beg for patience with my country, which is stuck like a beaver in a dam of its own making.

American travellers used to shove a Canadian flag on their backpack for better treatment overseas. I'm sorry that the reverse has happened and Canadians now switch the conversation to Obama as quickly as possibly before the subject of clubbing seals arises.

We have shamed our better natures. But we Canadians will rid ourselves of Harper and rise again to be the decent and intelligent nation you Brits once patronised with such delight.

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You know I do sort of agree with Heather. It is embarrassing to be a Canadian sometimes, particularly when Heather is out there representing us to the world.

Heather if you are ashamed of your country I feel sorry for you but that is your choice, but please do not go around and attempt to speak for the millions of others of us who are very proud of this great country of ours. You are truly an embarrassment to all of us.

A blast from the recent past: More slime from Heather can be found here. Note that this article was considered so far over the top that her bosses at the CBC deleted it from the web and issued an apology.

"On the whole, the CBC News policy handbook takes a very anxious view of any mixing of opinion in with the news business. It sees the two as nitro and glycerin, innocuous on their own but explosive together. This is a very healthy restraint for a public broadcaster.

But every news organization needs to have an opinion dimension. Access to different viewpoints helps readers, listeners and viewers make reasoned choices, especially during an election campaign.

As a public broadcaster we have an added responsibility to provide an array of opinions and voices to complement our journalism. But we must do so carefully. And you should be able to trust us to provide you with work that’s based on solid reporting and free from the passionate excesses of partisanship.

We failed you in this case. And as a result we have put new editing procedures in place to ensure that in the future, work that is not appropriate for our platforms, will not appear. We are open to contentious reasoned argument but not to partisan attack. It’s a fine line."

Charles Adler replies to Heather. Courtesy of Christian Conservative.

From the comments: You go Girl. http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/information/applications/renounce.asp

December 01, 2008. Happy Anniversary you Coalition fans.

It was exactly 1 year ago, December 1st 2008 when perhaps the most divisive move in the history of Canadian politics took place as Stephane Dion, Gilles Duceppe, and Jack Layton signed the coalition agreements.

A coalition that if it would have come to take the reigns of power in Canada would have caused a "permanent division"* in Canadian society.




*Michael Ignatieff June 30, 2009.

Has there been anything that Ignatieff has not changed his position on?

Torture. Texas Hold 'em Style.

If this was Texas hold 'em I think a 3 Generals with Red Cross high would easily beat the Liberal hand of a single Colvin.



Time to fold Liberals.

- Colvin visited the first prison on May 16, 2006
- ICRC rated the prisons as "not that bad", "not the worst in Afghanistan", inmates were "...in reasonably good condition", and received "enough food"
- Colvin only sent 3 emails in 2006
- Only one in the first three months of 2007
- Vast majority written about the same time the Globe and Mail was breaking the story on the abuses in the Afghanistan story
- Colvin only spent a day and a half outside the wire
- Prisoners were not simple farmers etc, they were all tested for gun shot residue, or were caught with large amounts of Pakistani cash.

ht Right as Rain.

A Simple solution.

My humble submission to the Nobel Prize Committee for consideration.

How to solve 2 of the greatest problems of our times with one simple fix.

Why don't we just feed the polar bears people* who refuse to tow the Anthropogenic global warming line.



If Al Gore can get a Nobel Prize for that crappy bit of propaganda of his, I should be a shoe-in with this idea for the 2010 awards.



*or the AGW scientists. I think that I can be bit flexible on this one.

Liberal Fundraising letter. Circa 1951

Uncovered from deep within the special archives:

Friend– Please donate now.

Help us uncover the truth. Canada’s reputation as a human rights champion is on the line. Let’s stop this travesty before Canada becomes a place we can’t recognize.

The Korean detainee scandal has the government’s spin machine on overdrive. First they said that the reports of prisoner abuse made last week had no credibility, and now we’ve learned that we have handed over prisoners to the Americans in spite of the fact that their commander, General Douglas MacArthur, was recently relieved of his command for reasons that are still unclear. Could they be related to prisoner abuse? We don't know but we need your help to find out.

With China now in the picture we are into an an entirely new war. Our detainee policy is in shambles and it is undermining Canada’s mission to bring democracy and respect for the rule of law to Korea. We owe it to our troops, our diplomats, and to Canada’s international reputation to find the truth about what happened. In times like these, no one can afford to sit on the political sidelines.

Your contribution of $5, $10 or $40 today will help the Liberal Party uncover the truth. Please give as generously as you are able.

Thank you,

(redacted)
National Director, Liberal Party of Canada

PS. Your donation right now is timely for the Christmas Season. What better gift than to make a donation on behalf of a loved one so we can smear the good reputation of our Canadian Armed Forces.

Some things never change.

From: “Rocco Rossi”
Subject: Help us uncover the truth / Aidez-nous à découvrir la vérité

Le français suit

Friend–

Donate now. Help us uncover the truth. Canada’s reputation as a human rights champion is on the line. Let’s stop Stephen Harper before he makes Canada a place we can’t recognize.

The Afghan detainee scandal has the government’s spin machine on overdrive. First the Conservatives called Richard Colvin, the courageous public servant who testified about prisoner abuse at a parliamentary committee last week, a Taliban “dupe.” Now, we’ve learned that Mr. Colvin copied the Office of the Minister of Foreign Affairs on his warnings, suggesting that those at the highest levels of government were aware of the situation.

It’s textbook US Republican-style attack politics, except this time it’s undermining Canada’s mission to bring democracy and respect for the rule of law to Afghanistan. We owe it to our troops, our diplomats, and to Canada’s international reputation to find the truth about what happened. In times like these, no one can afford to sit on the political sidelines.

Your contribution of $25, $50 or $100 today will help the Liberal Party uncover the truth. Please give as generously as you are able.

Thank you,

Rocco Rossi
National Director, Liberal Party of Canada

PS. Your donation right now is timely for tax reasons, too. Political donations entitle you to a tax credit of up to 75 per cent. That means that the after-tax net cost of your $100 donation will be as little as $25. So please make a donation now and help the Liberal Party uncover the truth.

Thank you Al Gore

Now I don't have to worry about putting money away for my retirement.

From the T-Star

"I know that doesn't make me popular in Alberta, but it's simply a fact. A lot of money is at stake, but a lot of lives and the future of human civilization are also at stake."



Yes Al, a lot of money is at stake here. Yours.

Where is Ignatieff?

Where is Michael Ignatieff? I have not seen a press interview with him for awhile and he was absent from oral questions all of last week where the subject of discussion has been mostly about something that he is very familiar with; torture.


Odd that a guy who said this:



and this:





and wrote stuff like this:

"…torture is not served by collapsing the distinction between coercive interrogation and torture. Both may be repugnant, but repugnance does not make them into the same thing."

"…necessity may require the commission of bad acts…"

"An outright ban on torture and coercive interrogation leave a conscientious security officer with little choice but to disobey the ban."

"…it must be the case that other acts of torture occur because interrogators believe, in good faith, that torture is the only way to extract information in a timely fashion…"

"The argument that torture and coercion do not work is contradicted by the dire frequency with which both practices occur."

And, finally, the epitaph:

"I am willing to get my hands dirty."

"I am willing to get my hands dirty." That much, it seems, is true."

would be absent the very same week where the subject of his expertise comes up. What are the odds of that.



BTW: Ignatieff is also an expert in war crimes ("I was a professor of human rights, and I am also a professor of the laws of war, and what happened in Qana was a war crime, and I should have said that. That's clear.") too, or at least he was ("As I said earlier this week, whether war crimes were or were not committed on the attack on Qana is for international bodies to determine,") before being called on his words.

(To all of those that claim that Ignatieff was sorry for his war crime comments I hope you note that what he said above was not an apology from Ignatieff. Not even close.)

More'Apologizing' from Ignatieff: "I do believe that in this conflict, war crimes were visited on Israeli citizens and were visited on Lebanese civilians," he said. "Whether war crimes were committed in the attack on Qana is for international bodies to determine. That doesn't change the fact that Qana was a terrible tragedy."

Turnabout is fair play. Stephane Dion's wife has some thoughts

Considering how Ignatieff was working behind the scenes long before he seized power from Dion; this could have been much worse.

Janine Krieber from her Facebook Page.

It's been a year and one week since I last wrote on my blog. Ah! "la présidente" is lazy. But we have to take action now.

The Liberal Party is falling apart, and will not recover. Like all liberal parties in Europe, it will become a weakling at the mercy of ephemeral coalitions. By refusing the historic coalition that would have placed it at the helm of the left, it will be punished by history.

Anyway, I became convinced of it the moment that Paul Martin treated Jean Chrétien so cavalierly. The party died at that moment. If the Toronto elites had been more in tune, humble and realist, Stéphane would have been willing to take all the time and absord all the hits needed to rebuild the party. But they couldn't swallow the 26%, and now we are at 23%.

The time for choices is now. I don't want to see the Conservatives continue to change my country. They are, slowly, like any dictatorship, changing the world. Torture doesn't exist, corruption is a fabrication. Do we really have the right leader to discuss these questions? Can someone really write these insanities and lead us to believe that he simply changed his mind? In order to justify violence, he must have engaged in serious thought. Otherwise, it's very dangerous. How can we be sure that he won't change his mind one more time?

The party grassroots had understood all of that, and the average citizen is starting to understand it too. Ignatieff's supporters have not done their homework. They did not read his books, consult his colleagues. They were satisfied that he could be charming at cocktails. Some of them are outraged now. I am hearing: Why did no one say it? We told you loud and clear, you didn't listen.

I am starting a serious reflection. I will not give my voice to a party that will end up in the trashcan of history. I am looking around me, and certain things are attractive. Like a dedicated party that doesn't challenge its leader at every hiccup in the polls. A party where the rule would be the principle of pleasure, and not assassination. A party where work ethic and competence would be respected and where smiles would be real.

Maybe I'm not dreaming.

"La présidente."

A trip down memory lane on torture and Liberal spin.

(Reproduced from the original post April 26, 2007.)



I find the Liberals to be full of nostalgia as of late for a time when they were still in power. For them everything was rosy and much better than it is today, take the Afghan prisoner ruckus that the Liberals and their close friends are trying to milk for all it is worth as an example.

Care to join me in a trip down memory lane......

Does anyone remember this picture?

For those that do not, this picture is of Canada's own JTF 2 in Afghanistan with prisoners that they had taken and was published Jan 2002 (AP / DarioLopez-Mills) .

Please note the date of the photo January 2002. A time where the Liberal led Government of Canada was not even admitting to Canadians that we had troops in Afghanistan; never mind that they were already involved in active combat and were taking prisoners.

When asked in QP about how Canadian Forces would deal with prisoners, PM JeanChrétien said "You are asking me a purely hypothetical question at this time." totally unaware that the event(s) had even happened and having no idea what was going on with prisoners. CBC NEWS SOURCE

The Prime Minister of Canada, Jean Chrétien, the man that sent our troops into war, did not know what our forces were doing on the other side of the world in the name of Canada!

Good times, good times.

A more positive note for the Liberals was that after a few years in Afghanistan, and after numerous prisoners were handed over to the Afghan authorities, the Paul Martin government negotiated a prisoner transfer agreement. Does anyone want to guess why the Liberals negotiated that deal? Could it be that allegations of coercion and torture just did not start in March of last year when the CPC took over, and that this has been an issue from the time Chrétien first showed all that "Liberal compassion" for the Canadian Armed Forces in question period?

That same transfer agreement, which was good enough for the Liberals, remained intact right up until yesterday when the Conservative Government negotiated the right for Canadian authorities to visit all detention facilities to check on prisoners. Why this was not in the agreement in the first place is beyond me, but maybe while those Liberals are going back down memory lane they could ask themselves why they didn't add this clause when they negotiated the deal!

Thanks for the memories, Liberals.

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On another related point; I am getting tired of Liberals deliberately misleading Canadians on the role of the International Red Cross with Afghan prisoners.

From a Liberal Press release: "...Minister O’Connor told Canadians the Red Cross was responsible for monitoring the treatment of detainees, until the Red Cross came forward to confirm that was not its mandate."

This from the ICRC: "According to its international mandate, the ICRC visits detainees held as a result of armed conflict and other situations of violence being held by the Afghan authorities and forces such as the United States and NATO. Delegates regularly assess the conditions of detention, the treatment of detainees and respect of their fundamental judicial guarantees."

I don't think the truth could be any clearer. The Liberals again are lying for their own political gain and while lying may bring back memories of the good old days for many Liberals, it just goes to show the rest of us that the Liberal good old days should be remembered for what they really were.

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Mr.Colvin was in Afghanistan from April 2006 until September 2007*. Compare those dates to what you have read above and ask yourself under whose watch did most of the problems occur and who was it that tried to make the situation better once they found problems.

Then ask why the time line seems to be completely ignored by most of the media in their quest for smear.


*Does anyone have the exact dates?

Update:A must read Interview with an Afghan Warden. ( ht Wilson from the comments)

Liberals in charge a history.

A Picture says a 1000 words.

Don Newman missed us.

I guess Don Newman misses taking shots at the conservatives on the Braaaaaawdcast.

Take your BP meds and have a read: Stephen Harper and the politics of suspicion.


Your tax dollars at work ladies and gentlemen.

"I agree with this. Big time."

Things were not always so happy in Liberal land.

Warren Kinsella wrote on his blog October 11, 2006. "I agree with this. Big time." (Note: Link is now dead)


And what is "this"?

October 11, 2006

Mr. Michael Ignatieff, M.P.
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6
Dear Mr. Ignatieff:
On behalf of the Canada-Israel Committee, I am writing to express profound concern about your comments over the weekend regarding the recent conflict in Lebanon. In what appears to be very straightforward language, you accused Israel of having committed war crimes in Qa’na – an assertion you explicitly anchored in your expertise in the area of international law and the conduct of war. Notwithstanding attempts by your campaign team to provide a different context for the remarks, we remain troubled by them and what it may suggest about your overall orientation to the Middle East, Israel’s values as a vibrant democracy and the challenges Israel faces from those determined to destroy the Jewish state.
If your intentions were not to accuse Israel of having committed war crimes in Qa’na, we would ask that you issue an immediate clarification – in both official languages – that clearly sets out your view of the issue and unambiguously rejects the suggestion that Israel is guilty of any such conduct. Should you choose to offer such a clarification, we will undertake to circulate it widely within the pro-Israel community. Should you choose not to issue a statement, we would feel obliged to convey that message to our constituency as well.
Sincerely,
Marc Gold, National Chair

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Related: More blasts from the Liberal Past:

Thomas Hubert, Vice President of Communications for the Young Liberal of Canada (B.C.), wrote the following on his blog:

“One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter ... History will remember Hezbollah as an organization that stood up to the most vile ‘nation’ in human history.”

And this from the comment section on another Liberal Blog



BigCityLib had some thoughts on the "monster" within here.


A run down of Liberal MP Borys Wrzesnewskyj quotes can be found here. (Worth reading)

And finally back to Warren again who wrote the following: August 20, 2006 – Why is the author of this blog (deadlink to thelongwalk.ca) a putative supporter of Gerard Kennedy, and claiming to be a member of the Liberal Party of Canada’s executive in BC, writing things like this on Cherniak’s blog?(see photo above) Is anything going to be done about this? If Bill Graham and Denis Coderre have any say in the matter, I doubt it. And people still ask me why I don’t feel comfortable in the Liberal Party of Canada anymore. It’s rather self-evident, I’d say.


and for an added bonus this on

August 22, 2006 - By the by, some folks are asking why Jason and I are now paying attention to the likes of the (for now) anonymous "Big City Lib" and, in Jason's case, Martha's anti-Israel communications guy. It's a fair question.

My grandmother, God rest her eternal soul, had the best view on situations like this one. "Once you've decided to clean out one toilet," said she, "you may as well clean out all the toilets."

Well, she didn't actually say that, but I can see her saying that. And it makes sense, don't it?

Pass the Brillo pads.

August 21, 2006 - Just received this, late, from the Kennedy campaign. Good statement, albeit late. It should have mentioned Hubert, however.

Now - does anyone know who is behind "Big City Lib"? Say this much for Thomas: he at least used his real name when spewing hate. Big City Lib lacks the courage of his convictions, it seems.

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Those Liberals. One big happy bunch.

The facts on the Liberals spin on Durban1, and as you may have guessed the facts get in the way again.

Kady O'Malley and flawed logic.

You may already be familiar with the story of Michelle Simson, Liberal MP for Scarborough Southwest, having to apologize for a Twitter she made yesterday regarding Dean Del Mastro. Simson apologized to Mr. Del Mastro before the House, and even though the apology may have been half hearted, it was done and the story should have ended there.

But it didn't.

The CBC's Kady O'Malley wrote a little piece suggesting that perhaps Del Mastro may not be deserving of an apology because of something that he had said in Committee earlier in the day.

Here is some of what O'Malley wrote:

"Okay, so I have to admit that I was momentarily struck speechless when Dean del Mastro got up in the House after Question Period to demand an apology from Liberal MP Michelle Simson over "an entry she posted on twitter" -- a tweet, in other words -- in which, he sorrowfully informed the speaker, she had made hurtful remarks about his weight that, as far as he was concerned, went beyond the bounds of decent parliamentary conduct. With the air of a grievously wounded martyr, del Mastro read the text of the tweet from his BlackBerry, accusing Simson of "discrimination" -- not just against him, but every Canadian whose body shape falls outside the approved Liberal standard, and even suggested that it was this kind of elitism that will keep the party from ever returning to its previous strength." It was a masterful performance, really -- del Masterful, even -- given the fact that it was coming from a member who, just a few hours earlier, had repeatedly refused to withdraw the potentially unparliamentary comments that he made at the very committee meeting to which Simson's tweeting referred; a meeting that, as luck would have it, I was able to witness firsthand, what with liveblogging it and all.

A few points.

It is not up to Kady to judge what is and what is not ''unparliamentary" behavior. That is for the Speaker to decide.

Comparing Del Mastro to "a grievously wounded martyr" does not help your case. Come on Kady, you are better than that.

It is not wise or classy to make fun of the persons name (del Masterful, even) in a story calling out the bad behavior of others.

It is not a good idea to enter into some kind of bizarre relativism exercise in an attempt to equate 2 totally separate statements as if somehow one could possibly cancel out the other, and more so when O'Malley uses the following bit of very flawed logic for the basis of her argument:

"Szabo points out that actually, no Liberal members (or does he mean Members?) were charged with, or convicted of a crime, and invites del Mastro to withdraw; he refuses to do so, repeating, somewhat sulkily, that *he* thinks it was a crime. Does del Mastro understand the meaning of the word "crime"? Because it does technically involve charges, and courts, and convictions."

Really. A crime does not become a crime unless you are caught and charged. Wow! This of course is total bunk and unless you are a attorney for the Province of Ontario in Caledonia would anyone think that a crime is not a crime unless arrests and charges are made.

I think perhaps Kady may have accidentally stumbled upon the main plank of the Liberals election platform.

Fire the police and we can reduce Canada's crime rate to zero!

Do I really need to go on?



FYI you can hear Del Mastro's words here if you are interested. ( he starts at approx 34:25, the crime comment comes at approx 38:30)

Del Mastro was referring of course to Adscam and the FACT that some of the STOLEN money somehow made its way into the hands of some Liberal riding associations in Quebec. There were arrests, there were charges, and there were convictions with Adscam and although I am not a lawyer, the use of stolen money for anything sure appears to be a crime to me as well.


Did Del Mastro cross the line of proper behavior in Committee? I do not know if he did but whether he did or did not should have no bearing at all in justifying the classless Tweet from Michelle Simson, and Kady should know better than to even attempt to do so.

The lighter side of politics.

Team Tory puts on the skates for a good cause.



From Jane Tabor at the Globe and Mail. The boys of winter hit the ice. A team of Tory MPs, including some cabinet ministers, is traveling from west to east, playing hockey and raising money for local charities. The Tory team usually loses badly but the MPs are having fun while doing it. Last night the boys got together in Tory MP Gord Brown’s eastern Ontario riding, raising over $70,000 for the United Way of Leeds Grenville. Mr. Brown won’t give the score, “Let's just leave the score out … United Way won big.” He said that he and Defence Minister Peter MacKay both scored while New Brunswick Tory MP, Rob Moore scored a hat trick.

Last weekend, the team was in Edmonton Tory MP James Rajotte’s riding, raising $60,000 for the Boys and Girls Club of Leduc. Team Conservative, Mr. Rajotte said, lost 9 to 5 to the “Leduc Dream Team.” Mr. Rajotte, who also played last night, said that the way they viewed the game in his riding was that “we tied the first period, lost the second and won the third.”

Regulars on team are Defence Minister MacKay, Peterborough MP Dean Del Mastro, Environment Minister Jim Prentice and Alberta MP Mike Lake.

WTG Team Tory!

Just imagine the trash talk that happens when they play the Liberals.

Programs. Get your Programs. You can't tell the players without a program

And so the new Liberal Team is unveiled.

The new recruits include:

-Mario Lague, one-time communications director to former prime minister Paul Martin, former diplomat and former senior bureaucrat. Lague will take over as Ignatieff's communications director. (updated with link to Stephen Taylor post)

-Pat Sorbara, a longtime organizer and former senior adviser in David Peterson's Liberal government in Ontario. Sorbara was named Ignatieff's chief operating officer.

-Brian Bohunicky, a former top ministerial aide during the Chretien years. He takes over the Liberal caucus research bureau and will be a senior policy adviser to the leader.

-Heather Chiasson, another Chretien-era organizer and longtime party worker. She will be Ignatieff's liaison with the party.

Donolo has also shuffled some of the aides who remained in the office after the exodus of the last couple of weeks.

Jean Marc Fournier, a former Quebec cabinet minister who had been advising Ignatieff on the province, becomes principal secretary. Jim Pimblett, formerly legislative assistant, becomes Ignatieff's executive assistant.

I will leave you with the money quote from the above article "Ignatieff fired longtime supporter Ian Davey as his chief of staff several weeks ago, amid plunging poll numbers, repeated miscues and flip-flops." Because we all know that the mess that the Liberals are in could not possibly be the fault of Ignatieff himself.

From Peter Donolo's letter to Liberals (pdf) announcing the above changes:(highlighting mine)

In Michael Ignatieff, we Liberals have a leader of truly international standing. He understands the huge, long term economic challenges our country is facing – and the tremendous human cost they are already exacting across Canada under a callous, uncaring, incompetent government. And he knows that our future depends on innovative thinking and caring, engaged leadership to enable our country to secure the industries and jobs of tomorrow - and the prosperity and the strong, vital social programs that go with them.

Our job in the OLO is to help Mr. Ignatieff and his Liberal Team across Canada bring that message of hope and change to Canadians in the months ahead.

Peter Donolo.


Attacks and borrowed catch phrases. The same old same old from the new and improved 'old Liberals' now running the show for Ignatieff. A man who has never ran or organized anything more complex than a study group.

Ujjal Dosanjh rejects our reality and substitutes his own.

The Liberal Party is all about lies and games. Take Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh's recent appearance on CTV's Power Play with Tom Clark on Nov, 10 2009 as an example. (Video @ bottom of post)

Here is what he had to say on the subject of 10%'ers: "The difference is most of the conservative 10 percenters for instance that come into my riding, at least 1 every month, have been personally attacking Michael Ignatieff for having stayed outside the country. I mean that is disgusting. That is not an appropriate use of the10 percenters. If the want to argue policy, if they want to argue ideas, if they want to attack what we stand for, ah..that is different. If you are spending money for purely partisan personal attacks, that is not acceptable and that is the problem with the Conservative 10 percenters."

Is he lying to your face or just the most unaware MP in Ottawa?

Sorry to be so blunt but how can Dosanjh actually sit there and say with a straight face that the Liberals do not send out partisan 10%'ers? That is beyond the realm of belief considering that Caroline Bennett was just forced to apologize for this particular 10 %'er using aboriginal children as pawns for political games while using the fake body bag scandal as cover.And who can forget the outrageous 10%'er Hedy Fry sent out slagging our military and implying that Canadians abroad feel shame for wearing OUR flag because Canada has a conservative government!


I should note that to my knowledge Hedy Fry has not yet apologized for this outrage.



These 2 examples are common knowledge, there are more including ones that attack Stephen Harper, and there is NO possible way that that Dosanjh did not know about these or the other partisan material coming from the brain trust of the Liberal Party. So what the hell was Dosanjh, a guy who won his seat by just 20 votes, doing other than playing political games for political gain? I await an answer, but I know that like an apology from Hedy Fry, I should not expect one anytime soon.


If the above was not enough proof of the games that the Liberals are trying to play, consider what Dosanjh had to say about prisoners in Afghanistan getting the H1N1 vaccine claiming that the government prioritized the prisoners ahead of Canadians at home.

"The question I have is. How come those men, ah you know robust men who are engaged against our soldiers and fighting our soldiers, how come they become the priority and ah men and women in this country, majority of them at this point, are not a priority and that is the mess this governement created."

Pathetic. Nobody believes that the conservatives would purposely put Taliban prisoners ahead of Canadians, but yet we have Dosanjh trying to spin it as if they did.

I just hope that when the next election does come that at least 20 people in Vancouver South come to their senses and change their vote too get rid of this guy and his smears.

Marc Garneau demonstrates the problems of the Liberal Party.

Does the Liberal Party of Canada have any idea what they stand for?


I don't think so.


Here is Liberal MP Marc Garneau 'lost in space' on CBC's Power & Politics with Evan Solomon from November 10th 2009.

Perhaps Garneau, Ignatieff's Quebec Lieutenant, should be more worried about this guy rather than trying to spin non existent Liberal policies and values on the CBC.


Update: from the comments Another blogger on Garneau's visit with the CBC.

More Carnage at the OLO

Further to my earlier post today it seems that the carnage continues at the OLO for the Rosedale gang as Principal Secretary Dan Brock is leaving Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff’s office.

Denis Coderre wins another one.

Update: 9 more people go onto the EI rolls. From Susan Delacourt who corrected her original number of 30 Liberals looking for work.

Bonus update: Some are speculating that Warren Kinsella may be among those no longer working for the Liberals.

It is Official. Not that anyone really thought otherwise but..

It is now official. Ian Davey, former chief of staff, and his partner, Jill Fairbrother, the director of communications, confirmed they will no longer be working for so called 'leader' of the Liberal Party, Michael Ignatieff.

With last weeks departure of Mark Sakamoto and Alexis Levine and now with Davey and Fairbrother gone, it looks like Denis Coderre* is the one with the real power in Liberal Party as the culling of the Rosedale gang continues at the OLO.





* When Ignatieff said "What Mr. Coderre does is his business." "He took actions earlier in the week that have consequences."

Did anyone think that those consequences would be felt by everyone BUT Denis Coderre?

The very same Denis Coderre who wants to be the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada!

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On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month..

On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month an armistice was signed to end the war to end all wars. Unfortunately man kind thought differently.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Lt Col John McCrae.

Remember.

Sacrifice

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhr-ddhr/chc-tdh/chart-tableau-eng.asp?ref=SM


The first presentations.

Results of Stelmach leadership review

The results are in and Premier Stelmach has received 77.4 % support from PC party members in the leadership review taking place in Red Deer.

1191 cast. Yes 269. No 922*


ht Stephen Taylor.

I'm sorry, so sorry.....

NDP MP Pat Martin has apologized to the government. Earlier this week Martin called federal Sports Minister Gary Lunn and the Conservative government "crass" and "petty" and claimed that "There's clearly some political interference here" when a list of Olympic torch relay events released was heavy on Tory ridings and light on opposition turf. Martin went ballistic in the belief the list meant the torch wasn't going anywhere in Winnipeg fired off an angry letter to Lunn, accusing the Conservatives of using the torch relay to promote Conservatives. "I think your deliberate gerrymandering of the torch route to avoid opposition ridings is cheap, petty, and offends the Olympic spirit," Martin wrote. "Any reasonable person would route the torch through the corner of Portage and Main and if you are willing to do so I'll even agree to stay away if you're worried about having to share the glory with an opposition MP."

But once reality entered the picture, including the fact that the torch will be going through his riding, Martin had this to say: "I wish I had known this earlier, before I accused the (government) of deliberately manipulating the torch relay in Winnipeg to avoid NDP ridings," Martin said. "I apologize for these remarks and appreciate the invitation to participate in this exciting event for Winnipeg when it occurs in January."


Now the question is, will the MSM, who ran with this story in-spite of the fact that the head of VANOC has flat out denied any Conservative involvement. "At no time did anybody in any government, or any political party offer one iota of counsel or influence about that," John Furlong said. "We did our jobs the way we should have done them.", put as much ink or air time into the apology as they did with the original unfounded smear?

Ok, I know that the MSM really couldn't be bothered, has anyone seen any MSM outlet other than the Telegraph-Journal apologize for the fake wafergate coverage, but one can always hope.


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That didn't take long: 2 more staffers gone from the OLO.

Jane Taber has the latest: Things are sure getting ugly for the 'Rosedale Gang'.

Two senior Ignatieff aides are leaving their positions in the Opposition Leader's Office to return to Toronto.

Mark Sakamoto and Alexis Levine, both lawyers who have been part of Michael Ignatieff's inner circle since his 2006 leadership bid, confirmed their decisions in separate e-mails to The Globe and Mail tonight. They were part of the "Toronto gang" around Mr. Ignatieff.

I am not sure if it is directly related to his departure but you may remember Mark Sakamoto as he was the news just the other day. No word as of yet on the fate of communications director Jill Fairbrother, but I assume she too is gone.

With all of these changes in the OLO is it any wonder that Ignatieff wanted all those changes to EI.

Is Krista's name missing from the by line?

From yesterdays National Post comes this drivel from Pablo Rodriguez.

Some excerpts:

"Remember that for 18 years, the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada was an author himself, as well as a screenwriter and documentary filmmaker. He lived the life of an artist, with all the financial insecurity that comes with it. He watched with pride as our artists flourished on the world stage, and as they made Quebec and Canada models of creativity."

(Ignatieff the starving artist? Sorry Pablo, not buying it, and the last time I checked Quebec was part of Canada so there is no need to separate the 2, unless.....)
"Let us not allow ourselves to fall under the spell of the siren’s song, or should we say, of Stephen Harper’s song. Let us not forget that behind the Conservatives’ public relations strategy lurks a lacklustre vision whereby culture is subject to Conservative ideology. Let’s not forget Bill C-10, which sought to censor movies deemed “contrary to public policy” by revoking their funding."

(Nice attempt to smear the PM, you're all class Pablo. I see that the old Bill C-10 lie again makes an appearance. That was Liberal policy Pablo in case you forgot. The big lie here though is that not a single film is going to be censored by the government as Pablo maintains. No one from government is going to stop ANY film from being made; they are just going to have to find their own funding as do 99% of all business ventures in this country who mange to do quite well without using tax dollars to do so, which is something that Liberals like Pablo will never really understand.)

"Our Liberal leader is also committed to ensuring stable funding to CBC/Radio-Canada, allowing long-term planning so the broadcaster can continue to offer unique, quality programming, as per its mandate as a Crown corporation."

Yes he went there; Pablo actually brought up the CBC. Some days this is too easy.

The post somehow got messed up, it should now be fixed.

Ouch! Stelmach leads PC's to lowest level of support in 16 years

The Alberta PC Party is at the lowest level of support in 16 years according to a new Environics survey which came out on Wednesday, only days before Premier Stelmach faces a leadership review: From The National Post.

An independent survey of 1,000 adult Albertans (840 decided voters) conducted by Environics, and provided exclusively to the Calgary Herald, reveals the Wildrose Alliance party has firmly cemented itself in second place provincewide -- and has passed the Tories as the favoured party in Calgary.

The telephone poll, conducted Oct. 19-31, finds that 34% of decided voters would cast a ballot for Mr. Stelmach and his Progressive Conservatives if an election were held now, compared to 28% for the fledgling Wildrose Alliance and new leader Danielle Smith.

The Liberals are in third with the backing of 20% of voters, followed by the NDP at 9% and the Greens at 8%.

It might be a real rough weekend for the Premier.

ht daveberta.ca

How they voted: Bill C391 on the Firearms Registry

The members of the opposition that voted in favour of C391.

NDP Malcom Allen (Welland)
Lib Scott Andrews (Avalon)
NDP Charlie Angus (Timmons-James Bay)
IND Andre Arthur (Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier)
NDP Niki Ashton (Churchill)
Lib Larry Bagnell (Yukon)
NDP Dennis Bevington (Western Arctic)
NDP Nathan Cullen (Skeena—Bulkley Valley)
Lib Jean-Claude D'Amours (Madawaska—Restigouche)
Lib Wayne Easter (Malpeque)
NDP Claude Gravelle (Nickel Belt)
NDP Carol Hughes (Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing)
NDP Bruce Hyer (Thunder Bay—Superior North)
NDP Mark Maloway (Elmwood—Transcona)
Lib Keith Martin (Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca)
NDP John Rafferty (Thunder Bay—Rainy River)
Lib Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
Lib Todd Russel (Labrador)
Lib Scott Simms (Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor)
NDP Peter Stoffer (Sackville—Eastern Shore)
NDP Glen Thibeault (Sudbury)


Thank you for voting for freedom.

And here is a thank you from the so called tolerant left. (Potentially offensive link click at your own risk)



The complete voting results can be found here.